Hector A. Ruiz

MBA, Project Manager, Tennis Player, Musician, and Author of "How to Destroy a Country"

Tag: Breakups

The worst band breakups: Oasis

Today we are resuming my “Worst Band Breakups” series. So far I have covered Supertramp and Styx. Today I will discuss the band that prompted me to start this series: Oasis.

I first heard Oasis back in 1994, and I went to see them at Earl’s Court in 1995, when they were -arguably- at their absolute prime. Even then, the Gallagher brothers were not particularly friendly to each other. At first I thought it was an act, but in time myself (as well as everyone around the world who followed them)m realized that their dislike for each other was genuine. As it happened with Supertramp, the reasons for the rocky relation between the brothers is filled with rumors, unconfirmed stories, and a lot of speculation. The general consensus though takes us through the early years of the band.

Supposedly, Liam and Noel never got along, even as kids. There was a particular famous story about Noel playing guitar as a teenager and Liam pounding a tin drum incoherently just to annoy his older brother. As they grew older, Liam was the one who founded Oasis. Noel was a member of a somewhat unsuccessful band and would rarely interact with his brother, especially when it came to music. Eventually Liam realized that Noel was a way better musician, composer and songwriter than any of the members of his band -including himself-, and ended up inviting Noel to join them. This is how Oasis was formed.

Noel quickly assumed control of the band and started outputting the series of hits we are all familiar with that resulted in their first two albums: Definitely maybe, and What’s the story (Morning glory)?, all by himself. With nothing left to do, Liam -again, younger brother- was left relegated to a secondary position. However he still had quite an important role: lead signer and front man. Still, as time went on, Noel kept on berating on Liam, and Liam had no other option but to sit back and take it, with signing being his only escape route. I am no phycologist, but to me this is a classical younger brother syndrome.

As the years went on, Noel started to sing in a few of the band’s songs, which left Liam even more outcast. Cornered, Liam started behaving like a spoiled little brother: he started showing up late to the studio, or drunk, or late and drunk; he started showing up late to concerts, or drunk, or late and drunk; in addition to drinking, he started venturing into drugs; all of this while presenting himself as the absolute leader and cornerstone of Oasis.

By the early 2000s, the excess life and abuse led Liam’s voice to deteriorate, and by the middle of the decade it rapidly descended into putting him in a position where he was an image without sound during their live shows. When Noel demanded Liam to come clean and provide a reasonable explanation of his failing voice, he responded that he had health issues, which were never disclosed. Noel then would begin to doubt whether if there were any medical issues at all, and suspected that the cause of Liam’s decline was the abusing lifestyle he was living without showing any dedication or commitment to the band. Finally, in 2009 Noel had enough and released the below statement

“It is with some sadness and great relief…I quit Oasis tonight. People will write and say what they like, but I simply could not go on working with Liam a day longer.”

Supposedly they have not spoken to each other since… until now.

With the upcoming tour in the books all over England and Ireland, several
questions are pondered by Oasis’ fans:

  • Why reunite after so long denying any possibility? Are the reasons financial?

and more importantly:

  • Will they be able to survive the tour without breaking up.

Stay tuned and we will see.

HR

The worst band breakups: Styx

Following my previous entry on Supertramp, today I will explore an almost equally talented band that underwent an almost equally path of separation as Rodger Hodgson and Rick Davies: Styx.

It is not easy to pinpoint Styx’s exact foundation year, so to make a long / multiple lineups early years story short, I will concentrate on the main members. As a teenager -pretty much as most teenager during the 60s-, Dennis DeYoung was heavily influenced by The Beatles. He played accordion, keyboards and had a beautiful natural voice. Probably around 1970, Dennis met James Young (also simply known as JY), who was into the early era of hard rock developed by Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple. The band got the name Styx probably around 1972.

During the early 70s they released their first albums, Styx and Styx II, which contained a mix of songs that combined a bit of progressive rock, a bit of hard rock, and a bit of soft rock. Ironically enough, their first hit was actually a romantic ballad: Lady (which explains why it is so commonly featured in It’s always Sunny in Philadelphia, and is another proof that the show is nothing short of brilliant). Then in 1975 one of their members quit the band, and Tommy Shaw was brought in. Shaw’s musical talents equaled Dennis DeYoung’s, which made him quickly establish himself as a main contributor, which allowed Styx to become a bigger success. However while their talents were equal, their musical interests were not. Still, despite their differences, and thanks in part to JY’s invaluable role as mediator between the now two leaders, the band’s popularity soared boosted by both DeYoung’s and Shaw’s compositions, such as “Come sail away” and “Babe” -by DeYoung-, and “Fooling yourself” and “Renegade” -by Shaw-. As their popularity grew, DeYoung felt more attracted to the mainstream media, while Shaw wanted to maintain an artistic direction geared more towards rock. Then came the 80s, and with it… Kilroy.

Released in 1983, “Kilroy was here” was the band’s most commercial successful band. It was kind of a concept album mainly fueled by DeYoung’s vision, and the best way I could describe it is, as something that sits on the verge of commercial rock, progressive rock, new wave rock, and the 1980s, touching all four edges at the same time. That is what it made the album so successful, and that is why it led to the band’s breakup.

I feel that Shaw ran out of patience, and while he probably enjoyed his time working on Kilroy, it was not simply what he wanted to do musically speaking. With Shaw gone, DeYoung probably felt burned out, and his creative output diminished substantially at a time in which music was starting to change drastically. Bands with a sound like REO Speedwagon, Foreigner, Boston, Styx and Chicago were quickly being phased out by a new era of musicians that set the wheels in motion for the counter-culture era, which I will address another day on a separate entry. Still DeYoung kept on going with JY for the remainder of the 80s and the early 90s reaching decent touring successes, and there were even a couple of reunions that brought Shaw back for a little while. That is when the problems started.

By 1999 DeYoung fell ill and told his band members he would be unable continue touring with them. With financial and legal commitments, Shaw, JY and the other members recruited a touring vocalist and hit the road without DeYoung. As it happened with Supertramp, DeYoung sued the band for going on tour as “Styx” without him. The band countersued, and who knows how their relationship was torn within the legal arguments. Eventually, they settled on allowing Shaw and JY keep the name Styx, and DeYoung being able to use variations of it on his tours, such as “Dennis DeYoung from Styx”.

I will never forget an interview I watched a few years ago, in which Shaw and JY were asked what were the chances of a reunion with DeYoung. Shaw’s face was so sincere and honest, he did not have to even say a word to convey that there was zero possibility of a reunion happening. He went on to explain that both himself and JY approached and tried to reason with DeYoung on multiple occasions, yet the possibility of joyful agreement in which their old relationship could have been restored was never even in sight. They both claimed that DeYoung had become a difficult person, an unlikeable person, and in general someone you just did not want to be even close to.

A few weeks later I came across DeYoung being interviewed on some show I do not recall at this time. I carefully watched his face, I listened to his words, I paid attention to the way he would articulate his sentences, and the way he would convey his answers. I concluded that similarly to Roger Hodgson, DeYoung seemed to be what Shaw and JY had described. I may be wrong though, but who knows. It has been proven that fame, money and popularity can transform people. Interestingly, DeYoung and Hodgson performed together on a show not too long ago. They are both great talents that is for sure.

Stay tuned for my next entry.

HR

The worst band breakups: Supertramp

Reunions: may they be defined as the events in which band members who had been separated for many years, decide to come together and rejoin their old band, in order to relive their past success, and maybe even -although not the main priority, and highly unlikely- create new ones.

Rage Against The Machine reunited, and Oasis just recently reunited, which is what prompted me to write today’s entry. But which bands have featured break-ups so intense that the possibility of a reunion is zero percent? I had always thought there were five and I have to be honest and admit that Oasis was one of them, although they were not my number one. However today’s entry will be about the band I had at number five: Supertramp.

Supertramp was it was Roger Hodgson and Rick Davies who were the driving forces behind their success, with both of them being the main songwriters and singers of the majority of their hits from 1970 until 1985 when Hodgson left the band. Although the actual reasons for the breakup have never surfaced, the most popular was that both Roger and Rick wanted to spend more time with their families, and that even their respective wives had a part in the breakup, by complaining to their husbands that the tour life was exhausting and destroying their marriages. Nobody knows if this is the actual truth. In 1993 they briefly reunited for a special presentation that featured them playing “The Logical Song” and “Goodbye Stranger”, but parted ways shortly thereafter.

A number of years went by, and the band -led by Davis- announced a tour. This news was not well received by Hodgson, who at first confronted Davis about Supertramp being on tour without the guy who actually represented everything Supertramp was, and more importantly, playing songs that had been written / sung by Hodgson, which -according to Hodgson- was a violation of a verbal agreement they had made back in the early days of the group, in which they promised not to play each other songs in case either of them left the band. Supposedly Davis tried to reach an agreement with him so he could join them, but nothing was worked out. With financial and legal commitments made, Davies and the band went on tour as “Supertramp”, which enraged Hodgson.

Several legal battles ensued; long story short is that any chance of saving Davis’ and Hodgson’s relationship went to the Grand Canyon. The latest is that they are not even in speaking terms. At some point during the 2010s, Hodgson stopped paying royalties to some of the other band members, which led them to sue both Hodgson and Davis: Hodgson won the suit in court, and Davis settled out of court. Additionally, Hodgson has been known as being notoriously outspoken against having any of his Supertramp songs or live performances posted or shared online. That is the reason why for a long period of time, it was almost impossible to find any live performances of the original Supertramp lineup on YouTube, and instead the results would show Hodgson’s solo tour performances.

Stay tuned for the next entry: Styx.

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